The Journey Starts
Second grade Georgia History covered Mary Musgrove, the bi-lingual Yamacraw Indian translator for James Oglethorpe, founder of the Georgia Colony. My father said we weren't descendants. All of Mary's sons with John Musgrove died in childhood.
Further, he said, we may not be Musgroves at all. Rumor had it a Musgrove woman had a child with a McMurry man but, for whatever reason, gave him her maiden name.
So with this knowledge, in 2014, we created an account on Ancestry.com.
Ancestry.com is basically Genealogy for Dummies.
You start a tree with your family information; their site will connect you to records and others searching for this family. When it finds a match, a 'hint,' in the form of a 'leaf,' buds on your family tree branch. Our tree sprouted, and we followed the 'leaves.'
Our Revolutionary War History
These 'hints' led back through three boys - David, Charles, and James W - of Baker County, Georgia. They were sons of James Walter Musgrove.
His grandfather, John Musgrove, Jr., moved from South Carolina to Georgia after the Revolutionary War. The elder John Musgrove, Sr., a British Loyalist, was killed after the war, and his land in South Carolina was taken by his neighbor, a Patriot.
The Patriots were victorious in Clinton, South Carolina, at the home of John Sr. Brother Edward Gordon Musgrove. The site of that battle is preserved today at Musgrove Mill State Park.
The Musgrove brothers' grandfather*(see relationship notes below), Cuthbert Musgrave, sailed from Edenhall, England, to the colony in Maryland around 1660 ad. Cuthbert came from a long line of Musgrave Lords and Barons. The family was named after their old home Great Musgrave in Cumbria, England. There are records of our family dating back to 1200 AD.
This was exciting; we accepted every 'hint' that wiggled its 'leafy little self,' and our tree was growing.
The first clue we might be acting hastily came from another ancestry.com member, who wrote,
That was my first contact with Jacquie (Dial) Foster, a descendant of John and Minnie Lee (Musgrove) Dial. We've met since then, and she's been instrumental in gathering our family history.
Embarrassed, we went back to review the records we'd discovered. We found there was a missing link; James Walter Musgrove.
Richard Graham Musgrove thoroughly researched the American Musgrove ancestors of Cuthbert Musgrave in his seminal family history book American Family Musgrove (hosted pdf file). Our family line starts on page 725. He begins by admitting what all our family historians know;
Through a connection on ancestry DNA, we met David Moore, a descendant of Janet Musgrove. He researches y DNA at Family Tree DNA. He started 'The Wiregrass Musgrove Project' at their Musgrove Surname Project.
He tested four Musgroves, all male descendants, through an all-male line, of one of the three Musgrove brothers. My father tested for David's line. One descendant tested for Charles' line and two for James'.
The results were conclusive.
The two descendants of James match. None of the brothers' descendants matches any other brother. And no test result matches any other Musgrove test.
Tell us your thoughts in the comment section below or at our Musgrove Family Facebook site.
The Patriots were victorious in Clinton, South Carolina, at the home of John Sr. Brother Edward Gordon Musgrove. The site of that battle is preserved today at Musgrove Mill State Park.
The Unbroken Chain
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| Edenhall, England |
The Musgrove brothers' grandfather*(see relationship notes below), Cuthbert Musgrave, sailed from Edenhall, England, to the colony in Maryland around 1660 ad. Cuthbert came from a long line of Musgrave Lords and Barons. The family was named after their old home Great Musgrave in Cumbria, England. There are records of our family dating back to 1200 AD.
The Discoveries
The first clue we might be acting hastily came from another ancestry.com member, who wrote,
"My grandmother was not black."
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| Minnie Lee (Musgrove) Dial courtesy Jacquie (Dial) Foster |
That was my first contact with Jacquie (Dial) Foster, a descendant of John and Minnie Lee (Musgrove) Dial. We've met since then, and she's been instrumental in gathering our family history.
Embarrassed, we went back to review the records we'd discovered. We found there was a missing link; James Walter Musgrove.
The Chain Breaks
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| Richard Graham Musgrove 1923-2016 |
James Walter Musgrove, Sr. has been reported by descendants to have come from Baker County, Georgia. However, I have been unable to tie him back to one of the many Musgrove families from that area.Our search for proof of James Walter Musgrove turned up nothing. So, we took a DNA test at ancestry.com/dna. A few Musgrove matches returned, all known to descend from David's line. Though Baker County Musgroves had tested on Ancestry DNA, we didn't match them. We couldn't follow any clues farther back.
Breaking Down Walls
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| David Moore Manager-Wiregrass Musgrove Surname Project |
He tested four Musgroves, all male descendants, through an all-male line, of one of the three Musgrove brothers. My father tested for David's line. One descendant tested for Charles' line and two for James'.
The results were conclusive.
The two descendants of James match. None of the brothers' descendants matches any other brother. And no test result matches any other Musgrove test.
From McMurry to Musgrove
The closest match to my father's y DNA test is a test for a relative of Pinkney Euphrates McMurry. Our y DNA results match these at a genetic difference of two mutations - 109/111 - at 111 markers tested - the highest possible.
This information was updated here.
A 109/111 match indicates a close relationship. Most matches are 7th cousins or closer, and over half are 4th or more recent cousins.At this point, a y DNA connection between any of the three brothers has yet to be proven. All testees come from a different surname lineage. There is no connection to any other tested Musgrove line.
This information was updated here.
The Journey's End
We're now wrapping up our research and assembling our history. Our known Musgrove family name history starts in Clinch County, Georgia, with David and Betty (Collins) Musgrove one year before the Civil War.
Tell us your thoughts in the comment section below or at our Musgrove Family Facebook site.
Note: Relationships are expressed from the perspective of the grandchildren of Willis Edgar and Carrie (known as) Mae (Merritt) Musgrove.
*Terms of relationship - grandmother, uncle, aunt, cousin, etc. - are generically used to include relatives such as fourth great-grandfathers, great grand uncles, second cousins twice removed, etc.








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